NCAA Womens Soccer Announced Signings for 2010

[Mrs.GD]

I do hope someone out there can help my understand the relationships between the number of players recruited to a university , the number of scholarships available and how the scholarships are spread throughout the team.

My understanding is that all D1 soccer programs have 12 full scholarships available over a four year period.

The current roster at a major university in the midwest in the 2009-2010 year had the following breakdown.

9 Freshman
4 Juniors
9 Sophomores
3 Graduating seniors

25 Total

Recruiting announcement this week nine new recruits.

How do you spread 12 scholarships amoung a total of 25-3+9=31 players.

I assume that one way you offset the cost of going to school is to stack on top of the athletic scholarship , academic scholarships as well as in state perks.

This team already has one player from Nova Scotia the new recruits has an additional player from Nova Scotia as well as two from Ontario.

One would have to assume that there are very few players that are on full scholarships with alot of the players on partial scholarships.

Please help me understand this difficult math equation.

Hmmm, sounds like you are speaking of the University of Michigan. If you are, I can only add the following facts:

1. All four Canadians are on a full ride status with no academic money stipulated, being brought into the equation, or discussed at any time.
2. Michigan carried a roster last year that included MANY walk ons.
3. Michigan will have athletic money to pick up 2 next year.

Now as to who is getting what other than the four Canadians, whose to know really? But that leaves 8 full rides to split in 2010 from the 12 you state are allowed per year. Also, I imagine this means that assuming all 4 Canadians return next year, there will be 6 full rides left to split for 2011.

Hopefully this helped your equation a little!

[quietparent]

Good post Mrs. GD

Dont' forget that each scholarship is really only for one year and that the athlete must earn a renewal each year. No one, know matter how good, gets more than a one year signing at any time.

Cheers!

[Touchofablacksmith]

A fully funded NCAA DI program has up to 14 full scholarships (not 12) available on the women's side and only 9.9 available on the men's side.

An athletic scholarship is a 1 year agreement and is renewed each year. Any school worth its mettle will not decrease the scholarship from year to year based only on athletic performance. If the student athlete happens to become ineligible based on academics or other "off field" activities, those are extenuating circumstances. But based only on performance, athletic scholarships are rarely reduced.

[tfc22]

A fully funded NCAA DI program has up to 14 full scholarships (not 12) available on the women's side and only 9.9 available on the men's side.

An athletic scholarship is a 1 year agreement and is renewed each year. Any school worth its mettle will not decrease the scholarship from year to year based only on athletic performance. If the student athlete happens to become ineligible based on academics or other "off field" activities, those are extenuating circumstances. But based only on performance, athletic scholarships are rarely reduced.

I do apologise you are correct D1 soccer programs for women allow 14 scholarships

[quote="Mrs.GD
Now as to who is getting what other than the four Canadians, whose to know really? But that leaves 8 full rides to split in 2010 from the 12 you state are allowed per year. Also, I imagine this means that assuming all 4 Canadians return next year, there will be 6 full rides left to split for 2011.

Hopefully this helped your equation a little!

This information is very interesting, with the correction in allowable scholarships to 14, if all four canadians are on full ride that represents 28.6% of scholarship funding and only allows 10 scholarships to be split amounst 27 remaining players. Again assuming the information is correct this University should be applauded for committing so much funding to Canada.

[soho]

tfc22 There are many schools with more than 4 or more Canadians on full scholarships.
It is true that scholarships can disappear if the student is not NCAA eligible or good enough to meet the school's admission criteria. It is not just bad students that it happens to. The SAT emphasizes Math, English grammar, and vocabulary. Some students have no idea that they are weak in those areas until their SAT score comes back. They may have a solid B+ average but are unable to put together a coherent sentence. US teachers know that their students will have to pass this test so they try to make sure that the students have the skills.
My tip for the day is, take away the video games and give your child a library card if you want them to play university soccer.

[long_ball]

How many of these girls were from the Provincial Program?
How many played OYSL ?

I know for a fact the one from NM was not part of the provincial program.

[Mrs.GD]

How many of these girls were from the Provincial Program?
How many played OYSL ?

I know for a fact the one from NM was not part of the provincial program.

The one from NM, a fantastic player by the way, was part of the Regional program, and was part of the Provincial Program for a short time. I am not insinuating at all that the Provincial program is responsible for her scholarship, just correcting the facts.

This information is very interesting, with the correction in allowable scholarships to 14, if all four canadians are on full ride that represents 28.6% of scholarship funding and only allows 10 scholarships to be split amounst 27 remaining players. Again assuming the information is correct this University should be applauded for committing so much funding to Canada.

I don't think they look at it in terms of committing funding to Canada per se. They recommend the funding where they see the need. What I think the University itself should be applauded for is the fact that they will allow for a fifth year of aid if needed in order to graduate. To me that is very impressive and shows their committment to education. And yes, that fifth year of aid will come even if a red shirt is not used and your four years of eligibility are up. Now in speaking to some others, I have heard that other schools offer that as well. Throughout the recruiting process however, I directly have only heard it from this one. Now if you are going into an extremely tough program, that tends to put the mind at ease quite a bit I'd say. I know that the current rostered Canadian is a pre-med, and a second will be following that same type of program, so this optional fifth year will be very important in terms of stress level.

[quietparent]

Please be aware that there are PLENTY of girls going away on FULL scholarship who are not, or were not, or were for a very very short time (at a very young age), involved with the Provincial program. These girls have their clubs and coaches to thank IMHO. Actually I think that about 99% of the girls going away should be thanking their clubs and club coaches first and foremost.

The OSA will come out with their own news release to let us all know who's scholarship they feel they are a part of. They do every year.

Cheers!

[Martin]

QP, there are three components to a player achieving a scholarship:

1. The coaching the player received.
2. The encouragement and support of their parents.
3. And the player themselves. They are the ones busting a gut on the pitch and in the classroom.

In my opinion the greatest portion of credit rests with the player themselves. Without their skill and determination in the game, and more importantly their scholastic accomplishments, a scholarship is just a dream. Reality points to more than the coach/club, and definitely more than the OSA.

[long_ball]

The one from NM, a fantastic player by the way, was part of the Regional program, and was part of the Provincial Program for a short time. I am not insinuating at all that the Provincial program is responsible for her scholarship, just correcting the facts.

Where did I claim that you insinuated that the Provincial program was responsible for her scholarship?

You call the joke she got for a try out 4 years (regional to provincial transition) ago as being "part of the Provincial Program"? I always thought you had to actually be on the field and be given an opportunity to play in order to prove yourself. Silly me.

Every player has potential, we just need to make sure that our development system (Ontario) is based on a meritocracy and less of an ability to pay though the nose and play the political game.

By the way Mrs GD, Congrats on Jr's scholarship.

[quietparent]

1. The coaching the player received.
2. The encouragement and support of their parents.
3. And the player themselves. They are the ones busting a gut on the pitch and in the classroom.

In my opinion the greatest portion of credit rests with the player themselves. Without their skill and determination in the game, and more importantly their scholastic accomplishments, a scholarship is just a dream. Reality points to more than the coach/club, and definitely more than the OSA.

Agreed. Although a player will not get noticed unless he/she plays in some quality showcasing tournament. I am speaking of the first time a player gets noticed. After that, it is truly up to the individual and their support group, as you explain above.

[tfc22]

[quote="Mrs.GD]
I don't think they look at it in terms of committing funding to Canada per se. They recommend the funding where they see the need. What I think the University itself should be applauded for is the fact that they will allow for a fifth year of aid if needed in order to graduate. To me that is very impressive and shows their committment to education. And yes, that fifth year of aid will come even if a red shirt is not used and your four years of eligibility are up. Now in speaking to some others, I have heard that other schools offer that as well. Throughout the recruiting process however, I directly have only heard it from this one. Now if you are going into an extremely tough program, that tends to put the mind at ease quite a bit I'd say. I know that the current rostered Canadian is a pre-med, and a second will be following that same type of program, so this optional fifth year will be very important in terms of stress level.[/quote]

The NCAA allows each player 5 years of eligibility , if you look at many of the rosters they are alot of five year players. I would reccomend that you check the fine print of the scholarship agreements the five year only is provided for if the player is still on the active roster.

[Mrs.GD]

Where did I claim that you insinuated that the Provincial program was responsible for her scholarship?

You call the joke she got for a try out 4 years (regional to provincial transition) ago as being "part of the Provincial Program"? I always thought you had to actually be on the field and be given an opportunity to play in order to prove yourself. Silly me.

Every player has potential, we just need to make sure that our development system (Ontario) is based on a meritocracy and less of an ability to pay though the nose and play the political game.

By the way Mrs GD, Congrats on Jr's scholarship.

Sorry Longball, did not mean to imply that you claimed that at all. I was stating that I was not attributing her scholarship in any way shape or form to her involvement in the Provinical / Regional program, thereby allowing them to take credit for it. Not necessarily for you but for others who may think I meant that. It's no secret my daughter was involved in the program from Regionals on up through NTC and therefore many may think I am implying that this is the reason she got a scholarship. The credit goes to her parents, and her club coaches, but most importantly to her for achieving it.

Thanks for your congratulations and the same to you and yours!

[Mrs.GD]

The NCAA allows each player 5 years of eligibility , if you look at many of the rosters they are alot of five year players. I would reccomend that you check the fine print of the scholarship agreements the five year only is provided for if the player is still on the active roster.

Sorry TFC, NCAA allows each player only 4 years of playing eligibility. The rosters that have five year players, are because those players did not play for a year. Basically a red shirt year etc. You can only PLAY for four years. If you get injured early in the season you can redshirt, depending on the percentage of the season played already. So once injured, you have to make a mathematical decision on whether or not you will red shirt, taking into consideration of course how much time your injury will take to heal, and what percentage of games are left.

Now the situation which I am referring to above does not include red shirt year. So assuming you have actually PLAYED for four years and used up all your NCAA eligibility, the school will actually carry you for a fifth year in order to finish your degree. I had not heard that from any school prior to Michigan, yet I am told by someone in the know that this is done in many schools. Definately a selling feature for sure. And as for checking the fine print of a scholarship agreement, (thanks for covering my behind by the way, you know from your own experience that you can only sign for one year as per NCAA regulations. The other "recommendations" that you receive for your own records are not in the form of the actual contract itself.

[tfc22]

Now the situation which I am referring to above does not include red shirt year. So assuming you have actually PLAYED for four years and used up all your NCAA eligibility, the school will actually carry you for a fifth year in order to finish your degree. I had not heard that from any school prior to Michigan, yet I am told by someone in the know that this is done in many schools. Definately a selling feature for sure. And as for checking the fine print of a scholarship agreement, (thanks for covering my behind by the way, you know from your own experience that you can only sign for one year as per NCAA regulations. The other "recommendations" that you receive for your own records are not in the form of the actual contract itself.

Would suggested the moderators consider removing all comments made by the previous poster.My understanding is that the contents of the scholarship offers are confidential and the specifics should not be discussed on an open forum such as the OSW. Congratulations to all players that have successfully receive scholarship offers and best of luck in the future.