U11 (1999) Girls Soccer

[D1st]

MARCH BREAK TOURNAMENTS

Is anyone aware of tournaments over March break for this age group? One where some of the stronger teams may be registered in? 11v11 would be ideal but 7v7 would suffice if that was all there is available.

Many thanks in advance for anyone and everyones input.

[soccerguys]

I have heard that King City is looking at starting a second team, and the coaches from team 1 will be running both teams. I don't know how involved the coaches will be.

[Ranger96]

I saw on the North Mississauga website that the "A" team is looking for players as well
http://rfastnews.net/a/nmsc/anmviewer.asp?a=902&z=1There are a lot for teams still looking for players
Not meaning to be rude but is there that many girls in King City to create a quality team?
I know that a lot of teams are struggled to get additional players for the move from 7v7 to 11v11
Its one thing to create a team for development but it’s another to just to get more fees for the club
I know a lot of clubs that have done this and even have gone to the extent of having 4 teams.
I heard that Oakville has three teams and the falcons have 2 teams that have more than 18 players is this a fact?
I guess they will be cutting a few players before the spring season. Looks like the coach can’t make up their mind during the tryouts,draging the girl through the winter thinking they have a team to play on,
Just to find out that they infact have to find a new team to play for with only a few weeks to learn what the new coach wants and how the new team plays. I will agree that a two day tryout is hard to find the
The good from the weak or the diamond in the rough but you can’t string along kids where they develop friendships. O ya , there will be some people that will say that the player had the privilege, to train and that the child had the opportunity to develop, but this is what starts the whole player/parent switching teams more often that their underwear.
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[jack straw]

King City may not be the largest club around, but if there is good coaching there is no reason why they can't have 2 quality teams. Oakville is just a town and they have three teams so King CITY should do fine. Besides they have the advantage of being close to Bolton, Brampton, Vaughan, Woodbridge, Caledon, Newmarket etc, all hotbeds of soccer.

[jack straw]

And Ranger96 I think you've got the whole switching clubs thing backwards. If a club has 3 or 4 rep teams the girl who is cut in the spring is more likely to have friends on the B or C teams and therefore less likely to go elsewhere.
After 4 years on the a and b teams, my daughter knows all the girls on those teams, half the c team and another 10 girls who have moved elsewhere.

[kids1st]

Hi Jack,

Oakville has a population of about 165,000 compared to less than 20,000 in all of King township. Oakville is Ontario's largest club with a membership of around 12,000 players ... there are probably more Tim Horton employees in Oakville than youth players in King City. But you are correct in saying that KFC might be able to draw from surrounding clubs.

... Looks like the coach can’t make up their mind during the tryouts. And drags the girl through the winter thinking they have a team to play on ...

... I will agree that a two day tryout is hard to find the good from the weak or the diamond in the rough but you can’t string along kids where they develop friendships ...

Ranger, there is good reason to postpone final selections until February and it has nothing to do with the coach's inability to make decisions back in October. Many coaches look to give more players the opportunity to develop through the indoor season. Players at this age have not peaked ... far from it ... some will surpass others after just a few months of training. And the indoor season provides coaches with an opportunity to evaluate a player's rate of progress, which is more important than a player's current ability.

Having said that, if the indoor program does not deliver quality training ... then I get your point.

[soccerguys]

Yes King City only has a population of 20000, but they do have sewers now.

[SoccerGoose]

Sewers! Thats fantastic, they should definately have a second team. Is there an LCBO? I hear with one of those you get a third team....can anyone confirm that rumour?

[soccerguys]

Confirmed no LCBO. They tend to make their own grappa.

[Ranger96]

And Ranger96 I think you've got the whole switching clubs thing backwards. If a club has 3 or 4 rep teams the girl who is cut in the spring is more likely to have friends on the B or C teams and therefore less likely to go elsewhere.
After 4 years on the a and b teams, my daughter knows all the girls on those teams, half the c team and another 10 girls who have moved elsewhere.

Jackstraw
I do understand your thoughts but from my experience that once an A player they think they should always be an A player even if the B team from the club is just as strong as the other clubs A teams thus they move. Also a lot of parents have the idea that an A coach is better that the B coach which is often not the case.

[Ranger96]

Ranger, there is good reason to postpone final selections until February and it has nothing to do with the coach's inability to make decisions back in October. Many coaches look to give more players the opportunity to develop through the indoor season. Players at this age have not peaked ... far from it ... some will surpass others after just a few months of training. And the indoor season provides coaches with an opportunity to evaluate a player's rate of progress, which is more important than a player's current ability.

Having said that, if the indoor program does not deliver quality training ... then I get your point.

Kids1st

First Great User "ID"
I can't agree more with you regarding the rate of development between kids but holding on to players through the winter puts the kid at a disadvantage with the ability to gel with their team for the summer just form a time perspective. I do not have issues with cutting kids that fail to develop or do not react well to the coach’s method. My issue is when a coach selects more that what they are allowed to carry for a league, If coaches would limit their picks to 18 players not 23-25 kids to train over the winter.
This also might help the smaller clubs so they do not have to fold teams due to not enough players (i.e. Clarkson )

[jack straw]

And Ranger96 I think you've got the whole switching clubs thing backwards. If a club has 3 or 4 rep teams the girl who is cut in the spring is more likely to have friends on the B or C teams and therefore less likely to go elsewhere.
After 4 years on the a and b teams, my daughter knows all the girls on those teams, half the c team and another 10 girls who have moved elsewhere.

Jackstraw
I do understand your thoughts but from my experience that once an A player they think they should always be an A player even if the B team from the club is just as strong as the other clubs A teams thus they move. Also a lot of parents have the idea that an A coach is better that the B coach which is often not the case.

Actually it's the parents more than the kids who think "once an A player, always an A player". When my daughter went from the A to B team it was the best thing that ever happened to her. She gained all kinds of confidence being the big fish in the small pond and she loves to play for her current coach. Part of me knows that she could go to another club and play at the top level, but she's happy where she is and is probably getting better coaching anyway.

[Socman10]

And Ranger96 I think you've got the whole switching clubs thing backwards. If a club has 3 or 4 rep teams the girl who is cut in the spring is more likely to have friends on the B or C teams and therefore less likely to go elsewhere.
After 4 years on the a and b teams, my daughter knows all the girls on those teams, half the c team and another 10 girls who have moved elsewhere.

Jackstraw
I do understand your thoughts but from my experience that once an A player they think they should always be an A player even if the B team from the club is just as strong as the other clubs A teams thus they move. Also a lot of parents have the idea that an A coach is better that the B coach which is often not the case.

Actually it's the parents more than the kids who think "once an A player, always an A player". When my daughter went from the A to B team it was the best thing that ever happened to her. She gained all kinds of confidence being the big fish in the small pond and she loves to play for her current coach. Part of me knows that she could go to another club and play at the top level, but she's happy where she is and is probably getting better coaching anyway.

There is nothing wrong with playing for a "B" team. I know several girls that play for "B" teams that can easily make the "A" team. Playing for a coach that you like and that is going to help you develop is way more important than the STATUS of being on the "A" team. The girls need playing time to help develop and that does not happen to some girls on "A" teams.

[kids1st]

Ranger, teams folding is not on anyone's wishlist (we hope). The majority of teams that carry oversized rosters indoors do so with the sole purpose of developing more players over a longer period of time. This is a positive in the younger age groups, IMO.

[Socman10]

Ranger, teams folding is not on anyone's wishlist (we hope). The majority of teams that carry oversized rosters indoors do so with the sole purpose of developing more players over a longer period of time. This is a positive in the younger age groups, IMO.

I understand why teams do what they do but it can be difficult on the girls as well. If for example 5 girls are released from a team after the winter season, they now have to find a place to play. If the club has a B, C, and even a D team, all teams are affected by this. If you are with a small club that does not have a B team, you now have to find a place to play. I think we need to put more faith in our B, C, and D coaches to develop players. The A coach should be scouting the B team and so on, and making adjustments from there.